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Recommendations for sax albums
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John Fryatt
2006-01-21 13:19:25 UTC
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Hi,

I'm looking for some saxophone music recording recommendations.
I.e. what CDs should I buy to get started?

I've liked sax music for years, and every time some comes on the radio
etc. I think 'wow, must get that' but .....

Anyway, I'm trying to think of stuff I like, and the only bits I can
think of are the sax part in Gerry Rafferty's 'Baker Street', and the
little bit by Bleeding Gums Murphy in The Simpsons ;-) There's loads
more but I can't thing of names.
I suppose also I'd say I probably don't want to go down any
'experimental' routees, at least not yet.

So, any recommendations for jazz and/or blues sax recordings?

Thanks, John
dave g
2006-01-21 13:54:37 UTC
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Post by John Fryatt
Hi,
I'm looking for some saxophone music recording recommendations.
I.e. what CDs should I buy to get started?
I've liked sax music for years, and every time some comes on the radio
etc. I think 'wow, must get that' but .....
Anyway, I'm trying to think of stuff I like, and the only bits I can
think of are the sax part in Gerry Rafferty's 'Baker Street', and the
little bit by Bleeding Gums Murphy in The Simpsons ;-) There's loads
more but I can't thing of names.
I suppose also I'd say I probably don't want to go down any
'experimental' routees, at least not yet.
So, any recommendations for jazz and/or blues sax recordings?
Thanks, John
here's some I really like -

Dexter Gordon - Go!
Dexter Gordon - Doin' Alright.
John Coltrane - Ballads.
Joe Henderson - Double Rainbow, Lush Life, Mo' Joe, Live at the Village Vanguard.
Sonny Rollins - The Sound of Sonnny.
Michael Brecker (any of the recent solos albums)
Cannonball Adderley - somethin' else, Spontaneous Combustion.
Kenny Garrett - African Exchange Student, Black Hope, Songbook.

If you want something a little more esoteric try Jan Garbarek- Tweve Moons,It's
OK to Listen to the Gray Voice, Star.
Charles Lloyd - Notes from Big Sur.

;-)
enjoy.
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Ed
2006-01-21 14:36:59 UTC
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Dave G is talkin' the good stuff. I concur!
Post by dave g
Dexter Gordon - Go!
Dexter Gordon - Doin' Alright.
John Coltrane - Ballads.
Joe Henderson - Double Rainbow, Lush Life, Mo' Joe, Live at the Village Vanguard.
Sonny Rollins - The Sound of Sonnny.
Michael Brecker (any of the recent solos albums)
Cannonball Adderley - somethin' else, Spontaneous Combustion.
Kenny Garrett - African Exchange Student, Black Hope, Songbook.
If you want something a little more esoteric try Jan Garbarek- Tweve
Moons,It's OK to Listen to the Gray Voice, Star.
Charles Lloyd - Notes from Big Sur.
;-)
enjoy.
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Ed
2006-01-21 14:35:16 UTC
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So cute, but [loud game show buzzer] EHHHHHH! Wrong answer[s].
Post by John Fryatt
Anyway, I'm trying to think of stuff I like, and the only bits I can
think of are the sax part in Gerry Rafferty's 'Baker Street', and the
little bit by Bleeding Gums Murphy in The Simpsons ;-) There's loads
Stephen Howard
2006-01-21 15:03:20 UTC
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Post by Ed
So cute, but [loud game show buzzer] EHHHHHH! Wrong answer[s].
Post by John Fryatt
Anyway, I'm trying to think of stuff I like, and the only bits I can
think of are the sax part in Gerry Rafferty's 'Baker Street', and the
little bit by Bleeding Gums Murphy in The Simpsons ;-) There's loads
Just curious...but what d'you consider is so bad about the two
examples given?

Regards,
--
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www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk
Ed
2006-01-21 22:14:37 UTC
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I didn't mean to offend - sorry if I did.
Actually, I like the Simpson's tune riffs.
Honestly, I hear it too often here :-) and it's
lost its appeal for me.

Baker Street is too studio-purified - I think
a newbie should hear a less-refined, more natural
sax sound. And, I should have given a little
explanation this morning.

The classics [Dexter, Coltrane, Webster, etc.]
have an enduring quality because of the lack of
manipulation and their breaking new ground then.

I'll be quiet for a bit, now... ;-)

Ed
Post by Stephen Howard
Just curious...but what d'you consider is so bad about the two
examples given?
Regards,
Stephen Howard
2006-01-22 01:40:50 UTC
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Post by Ed
I didn't mean to offend - sorry if I did.
Actually, I like the Simpson's tune riffs.
Honestly, I hear it too often here :-) and it's
lost its appeal for me.
Baker Street is too studio-purified - I think
a newbie should hear a less-refined, more natural
sax sound. And, I should have given a little
explanation this morning.
The classics [Dexter, Coltrane, Webster, etc.]
have an enduring quality because of the lack of
manipulation and their breaking new ground then.
I'll be quiet for a bit, now... ;-)
Ed
Post by Stephen Howard
Just curious...but what d'you consider is so bad about the two
examples given?
I appreciate the comments...and I can see your point of view.

From my point of view I always felt that Raf's ( Ravenscroft ) tone on
Baker Street came as a breath of fresh air when the song first hit the
charts back in the late 70's.
I think the purity is the key - to my ears it was the first time that
I'd ever heard a horn used like a lead guitar ( indeed, the riff was
originally written for guitar ).
Suddenly the sax was part of the 'glamorous' section of the band..not
just an aside - and was taking the lead in a genre of music where it
had never quite seen so much limelight.

Part of the reason for the tone is that it was recorded in a toilet
cubicle ( in Chipping Norton ).

As for 'Bleeding Gums Murphy'...ya just gotta love him.
Anyone who says "You don't play the blues to cheer yourself up..you
play them to make other people feel miserable" is always gonna be a
star.

From a cultural point of view, these two examples have been amongst
the most often quoted inspiration for people taking up the sax...and
believe me, we need some modern heroes to kick people off on that long
road.

Regards,
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Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk
Steve Marshall
2006-01-22 02:06:29 UTC
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Post by Ed
The classics [Dexter, Coltrane, Webster, etc.]
have an enduring quality because of the lack of
manipulation and their breaking new ground then.
I don't really care if it ground-breaking - I just listen to the sound and
if I like it, I like it.

I'd add Edgar Winter to the list for a bit of blues rock
Dexy's Midnight Runners - Searching for the Young Soul Rebels
for a bit of pop.
Johnny Hodges,
Sonny Stitt ,
Cannonball Adderly
And Stan Getz is a must !


Steve M
Ed
2006-01-22 14:09:10 UTC
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Steve, I'm with you in this feeling.
It is in retrospection I say they were
ground-breaking [and timeless] because
30 and 40 years later, most of my peers
and I were learning through transcriptions
and musical analysis how they created
that sound we loved so much.
Post by Steve Marshall
I don't really care if it ground-breaking - I just listen to the sound and
if I like it, I like it.
John Fryatt
2006-01-21 19:32:09 UTC
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Post by Ed
So cute, but [loud game show buzzer] EHHHHHH! Wrong answer[s].
Post by John Fryatt
Anyway, I'm trying to think of stuff I like, and the only bits I can
think of are the sax part in Gerry Rafferty's 'Baker Street', and the
little bit by Bleeding Gums Murphy in The Simpsons ;-) There's loads
Well, taste us subjective so they can't be wrong answers, just different
to yours. However, I accept that my taste in this area might be
undeveloped, hence my question.
What do you think is wrong with my examples?
Stephen Howard
2006-01-21 14:40:54 UTC
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Post by John Fryatt
Hi,
I'm looking for some saxophone music recording recommendations.
I.e. what CDs should I buy to get started?
I've liked sax music for years, and every time some comes on the radio
etc. I think 'wow, must get that' but .....
Anyway, I'm trying to think of stuff I like, and the only bits I can
think of are the sax part in Gerry Rafferty's 'Baker Street', and the
little bit by Bleeding Gums Murphy in The Simpsons ;-) There's loads
more but I can't thing of names.
I suppose also I'd say I probably don't want to go down any
'experimental' routees, at least not yet.
So, any recommendations for jazz and/or blues sax recordings?
Must be hundreds...but I find a good album that eases the transition
between r'n b sax and jazz is Tom Scott's "Tom Cat" ( circa late 70's
)
It's more of a jazz fusion affair - but there's some nice riff-based
licks followed by some meaty soloing that doesn't go too far over the
edge.
Alternatively, look out for a 'Best of Tom Scott' album.

Regards,
--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk
John Fryatt
2006-01-22 10:36:46 UTC
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Post by John Fryatt
Hi,
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Post by John Fryatt
So, any recommendations for jazz and/or blues sax recordings?
Thanks, John
Great response, thanks everyone. I'd better get down to the shops (or
the Web) tomorrow. Thanks again.

John
Barry Isaac Levine
2006-01-22 18:42:14 UTC
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Post by John Fryatt
Hi,
I'm looking for some saxophone music recording recommendations.
I.e. what CDs should I buy to get started?
I've liked sax music for years, and every time some comes on the radio
etc. I think 'wow, must get that' but .....
Anyway, I'm trying to think of stuff I like, and the only bits I can
think of are the sax part in Gerry Rafferty's 'Baker Street', and the
little bit by Bleeding Gums Murphy in The Simpsons ;-) There's loads
more but I can't thing of names.
I suppose also I'd say I probably don't want to go down any
'experimental' routees, at least not yet.
So, any recommendations for jazz and/or blues sax recordings?
Thanks, John
I'd suggest Joshua Redman's "Mood Swing" CD - a very good album, with a
range of styles; he's a terrific player in all of 'em, and writes very good
material as well.

Barry

"MOODSWING is.. a series of changes, alternating between the cool and the
hot--each arrangement depicting some aspect of Redman's wide-ranging musical
personality. So it comes to pass that a long jump tune such as "Rejoice"
(the centerpiece of MOODSWING) celebrates the gospel aspects of jazz in the
tried and true manner of the original Jazz Messengers, even as a low-key
"Faith" derives its inspiration from quieter forms of devotion, while
"Dialogue" manages to combine both as Redman expounds on a quiet Aylerish
hymn with escalating intensity... On a cool, swinging minor blues vamp
such as "Chill," the ease with which he manipulates the timbres of his
saxophone recall old-time tenor kings from the swing era. And yet, Redman is
very much the contemporary thinker, as his funky closing tune "Headin' Home"
illustrates."

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Mike Zack
2006-01-23 01:48:22 UTC
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Post by John Fryatt
Hi,
I'm looking for some saxophone music recording recommendations.
I.e. what CDs should I buy to get started?
I've liked sax music for years, and every time some comes on the radio
etc. I think 'wow, must get that' but .....
Anyway, I'm trying to think of stuff I like, and the only bits I can think
of are the sax part in Gerry Rafferty's 'Baker Street', and the little bit
by Bleeding Gums Murphy in The Simpsons ;-) There's loads more but I
can't thing of names.
I suppose also I'd say I probably don't want to go down any 'experimental'
routees, at least not yet.
So, any recommendations for jazz and/or blues sax recordings?
Thanks, John
If you like the Baker St. solo and are just getting into sax, then I would
recommend something by John Klemmer (who suprisingly you don't hear much
about in this newsgroup). A lot of his stuff is pretty accessible, while
going well beyond Musak. He's a very skilled player. And he uses some cool
effects.
Nick
2006-01-23 12:37:31 UTC
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If you want to hear some pulsating / exhilarating tenor sax playing
incorporated into varying musical styles / eras you could try the
following:

The Rolling Stones "Rip this joint" (album Exile on Main Street) which
includes two solos from Bobby Keyes.

Duke Ellington: Newport '56 - solo by Paul Gonsalves in Diminuendo and
Crescendo in Blue

Duke Ellington : "Cottontail" - solo by Ben Webster c. 1940 (found on
various CD's but a good example on Ellington: The Blanton / Webster
Band)

Crusaders : "Street Life" - solo by Wilton Felder

Cheers
Nick
Henri
2006-01-23 14:34:17 UTC
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Post by John Fryatt
I'm looking for some saxophone music recording recommendations.
I.e. what CDs should I buy to get started?
Hi

I always like very much Albert Ayler, Archie Shepp (Blase) and Steve
Lacy... and they are the first saxophon players I heard in 1970.

Henri (France)

Henri
mike
2006-01-23 21:24:19 UTC
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and if you like album covers, lots of FAUSTO PAPETTI........
AndyW
2006-01-24 10:49:26 UTC
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If a google image search on "Fausto Papetti" doesn't make you smile,
nothing will....

-A- ;-)

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